P O S T S
Do U like Dem?
No.
24%
[ 6 ]
Yes (theyre gewd)
56%
[ 14 ]
mmm... they're mmkay
20%
[ 5 ]
Total Votes : 25
lzzrdgrrl
posted this on Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:31 am |
quote:
Originally posted by kiwihead_92:
...This is actually supposed to go with the song "illuminati" by malice mizer.... and I colored it in with some markers. Its captioned "Mind Control" and its a bit darker than what I usually draw. Let me note now that they don't make skin colored markers D:<
Actually, there might be. There's a top-line art marker company named Berol®, and they probably have a website by now. The marker brand is PRISMACOLOR® and they much have about three-hundred colours available in marker at any time, including 'flesh'-coloured ones for the entire 'family of man'.....
They're sold at art supply shops, or office shops with 'drafting supplies' and at 'stamping supply' craft shops. They come in standard-width chisel, felt point and a combination marker with both tips at either end.....
I have used these guys, and they're okay, but they don't last all that long and they tend to dry out. And they're relatively expensive, and as with the previous reasons I wouldn't want to buy a 'complete set'. Still, to have that one 'key' colour that you wouldn't have otherwise. Or, to do a marker 'greyscale' in various tone of a selected 'key' - like violet or aqua.......
I like the marker look and the use of 'reverse outs'. Very good for illustrations and storyboards. Also, that you had a limited selection of colours forced you to use them in a challenging way and with generous whitespace. Very stark and dark-looking, which is the effect you wanted to achieve. An advanced technique I've used a time or two, is to 'tone' in various areas of the composition with washes of watercolour in a light 'key' or complementary colours, let dry and then pick, or pull out the details and accents with the marker. The 'shading' of the wash complements the shading of the marker for dramatic depth without turning to mud. Done with dedication and skill, this technique starts to look like you could've doen it on the computer, which is
how
they did it before they had computers....._________________
maskedmouse's indie cred has ruined me for any other man......
Kiwihead_92
posted this on Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:24 am |
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
Actually, there might be. There's a top-line art marker company named Berol®, and they probably have a website by now. The marker brand is PRISMACOLOR® and they much have about three-hundred colours available in marker at any time, including 'flesh'-coloured ones for the entire 'family of man'.....
haha nice. What I meant by they I meant crayola. I guess they had one which could've been intended to be "skin" colored but.... yeah it was
too
pink. Kinda like a white person who stayed on long beach for too long. Hmmm skin brand eh? Sounds kinda kewl.
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
They're sold at art supply shops, or office shops with 'drafting supplies' and at 'stamping supply' craft shops. They come in standard-width chisel, felt point and a combination marker with both tips at either end.....
nice. Sounds a bit much for colored marker don't it? I mean here in america those kinda places are called "michaels" or unknown small family owned business shops. I mean do u know how long it took me to find india ink? I have two bottles and might I say its the best thing in the world. I just need one of those pens to dip it in(I forget what they're called mahng it sucks. But I need one XD)
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
I have used these guys, and they're okay, but they don't last all that long and they tend to dry out. And they're relatively expensive, and as with the previous reasons I wouldn't want to buy a 'complete set'. Still, to have that one 'key' colour that you wouldn't have otherwise. Or, to do a marker 'greyscale' in various tone of a selected 'key' - like violet or aqua.......
doesn't sound like a bad idea but I'm not a real mangaka or comic artists so I can't afford these things.plus they dry easy? Sounds like a lot of wasted money. I mean I know some artists come off like me ,but I'm dirt poor man. Damn communists. Oh... what's a greyscale?
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
I like the marker look and the use of 'reverse outs'. Very good for illustrations and storyboards. Also, that you had a limited selection of colours forced you to use them in a challenging way and with generous whitespace. Very stark and dark-looking, which is the effect you wanted to achieve. An advanced technique I've used a time or two, is to 'tone' in various areas of the composition with washes of watercolour in a light 'key' or complementary colours, let dry and then pick, or pull out the details and accents with the marker. The 'shading' of the wash complements the shading of the marker for dramatic depth without turning to mud. Done with dedication and skill, this technique starts to look like you could've doen it on the computer, which is
how
they did it before they had computers.....
I understood it all until reverse out, what may that be? I mean ,although good to u , I actually have no idea what I'm doing. I'm just doing what I think looks correct. I've only attended art classed as a child in which 2 important things were taught to (me in two days) don't have the people stand on the "line" and how to draw 3-d tables. After that I've never been to art class and I've only picked up a how to draw manga book just to get the supplys. I mean I'm an ametuer in some retrospects. well... I guess I'm asking too much of the people and being tooo hard on myself. -nervous chuckle- anyways I actually had to learn not to color over colored lines(ha) because as u put it, it looks like mud.and as I've always said its easier to correct ur mistakes after you've done them. And thank you. Like on some parts I almost drove myself crazy coloring in. But I mean as you've said if I'd done it without rushing some of it could've turned out better
quote:
Originally posted by spyder:
cool pics.
thanks bitch _________________
lzzrdgrrl
posted this on Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:56 am |
Yeah.... I think, those lil' Prismacolor suckerz are between five and eight buxx, but once we needed ONE colour and so, we bought it. These things had their day when commercial art 'cartoons' or roughs, the presentation idea you took to a client, were all hand coloured and drawn.....
My dad had a partnership in a marketing firm in the 1970's, so that's why I know this stuff......
By 'reverse out', I mean the effect of 'drawing' in whitespace on a solid marker 'background'. Looks unique and sorta confounding. Look at the 'skull' and 'die' logo in your first drawing with Olivia, for an example.....
Actually; the crayola markers place rather high in the 'best deal for a dollah' sweepstakes. Sixteen different pens, and they work rather well for a dollar or a dollar-and-a-half. I bought a couple of sets that had both the magic 'colour changer' and 'colour eraser' pen a while back, and that is teh
bossest
thing ever. Do they still make those?......
I see you've used the colour 'eraser', but do they still have the colour
changer
? Draw on blue it turns yellow, draw on violet it turns pink, green to aqua, and the like?....._________________
maskedmouse's indie cred has ruined me for any other man......
Kiwihead_92
posted this on Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:15 am |
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
Yeah.... I think, those lil' Prismacolor suckerz are between five and eight buxx, but once we needed ONE colour and so, we bought it. These things had their day when commercial art 'cartoons' or roughs, the presentation idea you took to a client, were all hand coloured and drawn.....
well crayola does kick ass but they fail at skin colored markers. But actually all there other stuff is t3h nice.
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
My dad had a partnership in a marketing firm in the 1970's, so that's why I know this stuff......
the 70's? Damn lzzrdgrrl just how old are u?
By 'reverse out', I mean the effect of 'drawing' in whitespace on a solid marker 'background'. Looks unique and sorta confounding. Look at the 'skull' and 'die' logo in your first drawing with Olivia, for an example.....
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
I bought a couple of sets that had both the magic 'colour changer' and 'colour eraser' pen a while back, and that is teh
bossest
thing ever. Do they still make those?......
um I'm sure crayola does but they're harder to come by. But I remember back in like...... 2000 they came out with these ones called.......... marvins magic markers (that's what they're called) and they lasted a good long time and they even had the ones that erase. After a while when they were running I smashed in the top and then I took out the bottom and blew inside the end and it had the same effect as a regular air brush thing.
quote:
Originally posted by lzzrdgrrl:
I see you've used the colour 'eraser', but do they still have the colour
changer
? Draw on blue it turns yellow, draw on violet it turns pink, green to aqua, and the like?.....
it wasn't an eraser more or less white out. Anyways. Nah I don't think crayola makes those but u might have a better chance finding marvins magic markers. Or the new craze
blendy pens
. Marvins actually had. Red turns to yellow (vise versa) black turns to pink. Light blue turns to a sea foam green. Dark blue turns to light blue. Green turns to purple (vise versa) and yeah very interesting.
@frouwke- that just gives me all the more reason not to buy them_________________